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I Think We Need to Talk
Talk to Each Other
California State University, Dominguez Hills
University of Wisconsin, Parkside
Created: March 22, 2009
Latest Update: March 22, 2009
jeannecurran@habermas.org
takata@uwp.edu
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I Think We Need to Talk
- Introduction
One of the dangers in the world today is that in the midst of frustration, fear, and justifiable anger, we have begun to shout at each other. As Albert O. Hirschman described in the Reagan era, in The Rhetoric of Reaction, this ain't gonna cut it, folks. Sure, we're angry with justification. They robbed us. But who's the "they"? Sure, if we're not the 3% of folks with all the money, we know that we're the ones who got robbed. But did that top 3% do it to us. Hardly. They don't even know me. They probably don't even know you.
In sociology and economics, we call it "trickle down." But I'm afraid it's not the money and the good stuff that trickled down this time. It's the attitude of entitlement, and of almost total disregard of those whose shoulders we climb on to get to those privileged entitlements. And, yikes, did that ever trickle down effectively.
Why do I suspect that the person in my 1985 law class at UCLA who removed (I hate to say "stole" of a UCLA lawyer-to-be; after all, I "are" one.) the copies of a law book essential to an assignment many of us needed to complete, never thought that such behavior might bring down our country's economic system one day. Of course, on our way to "thinking like lawyers," we learned all about foreseeable consequences. But, of course, you couldn't practically go all the way back to "first causes." Get real!
Well, I think I am being reasonable and "real" when I look at financial experts, accountants, lawyers, and economists, all of whom played integral roles in bringing our global economy to its knees. Not all of them; of course not. Most of them, like the most of us in UCLA's law class of 1985, took our fiduciary and ethical responsibilities seriously. But then, how did those copies of the book we needed disappear not only from our library, but also from the faculty library, and from several other libraries that might have provided the case that had disappeared?
It wasn't so hard really. My husband's firm had the case in it's library. But what about those who didn't happen to have access to alternative sources, like a husband who practiced law? Or the mobility of a car at hand to take you to a more distant library? The skullduggery wasn't completely disabling. It just made the case harder to find and meant that most of us lost critical time checking out alternative sources. Time, in a highly competitive world, matters. Law schools and business schools, and law firms, and financial enterprises are highly competitive worlds. But what can you do to circumvent the skullduggery? Waste more time sleuthing about to locate the vile culprit? That's counter-productive. Most of us aren't trained investigators, and even trained investigators are hampered by a lumbering enforcement system. And then there's the "proportional response" dilemma. Even though we might have "liked to kill" the little "cheater," such lust for retribution could hardly have produced a "proportional response."
Because I'd been a teacher for so many years, I'd long ago learned that students couldn't cheat if the teacher made sure the resources were available to all. Simple. I xeroxed the case - 80 copies - and passed them out to my classmates. Well, actually, given that I was teaching all the while, I'll bet I gave the case to my husband's secretary and had her (yes, most of them then were "her"s) xerox and collate them.
Usually when people cheat, they don't have what it takes to stand on their own two feet, or brain parts (right and left). I don't really care who the cheater was. Except now, so many years later, I wonder if the cheater managed to pass the bar and practiced law the same way he/she got through that assignment. Cheating matters. But to the extent that it really matters, it mostly matters in the ideology it leads us to live by. We need to stop setting up situations in which cheating suggests a plausible solution.
More soon. . . . jeanne
- Discussion Questions
- How do we set up situations in which cheating suggests a plausible solution?
Consider testing situations designed for automatic correction, which means that the answer itself is all that is considered. If the cheater can obtain the answer, cheating becomes one plausible way to get a good grade. Consider the extent to which the issue of cheating has become such an issue that professors in college are often instructed to include punishments for cheating on college syllabi. That's almost like suggesting one plausible alternative to those students who might then spend as much effort to not get caught as they would otherwise spend to actually learn the material. jeanne
- References:
- Left and Right Lead Straight to Hirschman's Rhetoric of Reaction or Shouting at Each Other at the Top of Our Lungs Topic of the Week on Dear Habermas Issue 5, Volume 33, Week of June 28, 2008.
- Deflecting Accountability Joe Nocera, Ney York Times Business Columnist, analyzing the rising prices of oil in 2008. Discussion and commentary interspersed throughout the Nocera article. jeanne
- Talking To, Not At Each Other Topic of the Week on Dear Habermas Issue 5, Volume 33, Week of November 27, 2005.
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Online Resources For Governance Discourse
- Newspapers: Labeling here is based on an article by Ashley K. Vroman on the impossiibility of labeling newspapers by ideology. I personally go along with the conclusion of the conservative Media Research Center's L. Brent Bozell III: if the paper never met a conservative cause it didn't like, it's conservative, and if it never met a liberal cause it didn't like, it's liberal. But then, what about the Wall Street Journal whose news staff is considered liberal and its editorial staff considered conservative? jeanne
Liberal Newspapers:New York Times - Los Angeles Times - The Washington Post
The Boston Globe - The Chicago TribuneConservative Newspapers:The Wall Street Journal - The Washington Times - The New York Post
Manchester (N.H.) UnionLeader - The OklahomanThe Ideological Labeling of These Newspapers:"To test my hypothesis that people cannot classify newspapers as liberal or conservative, I began searching for any source attempting to classify newspapers ideologically. The sole article I came upon was "Rating the Top 10, Left and Right" from Insight magazine, written by Keith Russell. Insight rates what they deem to be the top five liberal newspapers and top five conservative newspapers in the country. A possible explanation of why I could only find one article in this search is because people, including scholars and academics and most popular magazines, do not try to measure how liberal or conservative newspapers are. Some may know that they cannot do it reliably and validly because different methods yield different results. Perhaps others do not formulate methods or measures lest they expose problems of reliability and validity. Unsupported assertions may be politically and tactically superior to dubious investigations."From "Slandering" the News: How Labelers Cleverly Undermine the Reliability and Validity of Newspapers," by Ashley K. Vroman, May 5, 1999. Consulted by jeanne, May 28, 2008.
- Beyond Newspapers
- The Institute for Public Accuracy The Institute for Public Accuracy seeks to broaden public discourse. With systematic outreach to media professionals, the Institute provides news releases that offer well-documented analysis of current events and underlying issues.
Paul Loeb, columnist and author, recommended this site for us when we're trying to be sure we've covered multiple perspectives on each issue.
- OpenSecrets.org "Our Mission: Inform, Empower & Advocate"
- Inform citizens about how money in politics affects their lives
- Empower voters and activists by providing unbiased information
- Advocate for a transparent and responsive government
David Brooks identified this site in His opinion column on July 1, 2008 in the New York Times. It is a good source of data on issues and the various perspectives on and funding of support for those issues. jeanne
- I also suggest the use of Arts and Letters Daily the Chronicle of Higher Education Site for clarification on the issues as perceived by other academics. jeanne
Current Online Sources Freely Accessbile Current list that is being updated and revised, but on which most links are still functioning. jeanne
- Farlex Free Online Dictionary:

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